Hi Dietrich,

I remembered your post when I checked out the sale email I got from Centaur. They were having a sale on patinas, and one was called Black Magic Traditional Patina. Regular price was $15 for a spray bottle,
$13.95 on sale. I haven't used the black patina, but I have used other patinas made by the manufacturer, Sculpt Nouveau and they worked well. I ordered my patinas directly from the manufacturer or got them from a supplier in Chattanooga, Townsend Atelier.