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#1   2011-07-21 21:08          
I have built an oxy-propane "forge" that is a straight torch that is supposed to be ignited by the pilot light flame from a "Weldit Gas Saver". The gas saver has been modified so that it allows the torch to come on when I step down on a foot pedal. This is to heat small items in the torch flame.

The unit is completed, the foot pedal works, the pilot light works, I purged the lines before use. I set the propane at 7 pounds as recommended for a #2 tip and the Oxygen for 35 pounds as recommended for preheat for the #2 tip. I lit the pilot light and turned it up fairly high. I opened the propane valves and stepped on the foot pedals. The Propane will not ignite. Even with the pilot light flame coming INTO the stream of propane. The pressure of the propane merely BENDS the top of the pilot light flame off in the direction of the stream of propane.

Before I get into endless experimentation can someone give me a hint if you have used oxy-propane. I did not have the oxygen on. There is no provision in this setup to bleed oxygen into the fuel. I know that acetylene will burn without the oxygen in an oxy-acetylene torch. Must I have oxygen added to the fuel to light a flame?

Dan, you said no one reads this site. I hope you are wrong.

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#2   2011-07-22 10:40          
You, me, Dietrich,Linda, Torch, and your brother are all.
Do you have LP tip on torch? Too much O2 pressure?

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#3   2011-07-23 18:09          
That ain't all. I'm here too. :D

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#4   2011-07-23 22:21          
DAN Have propane tip and I tried to light it with NO OXYGEN and it wouldn't light. I think that may be a problem, but a stream of pure propane was passing THROUGH the pilot light and it wouldn"t light.

Kevin Glad you're here.

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#5   2011-07-23 22:55          
I am wondering a couple of things here.
I use High Purity Gas, which is the same as propane.
I set the pressure between 3 and 7 on my gauge.

I have seen the Gas savers.
When you put the torch on the hook, it shuts down the gas.

You stated you have it "setup" with a foot pedal to turn it on.
However, your pilot light is lit, which is running off the gas.
So you are getting fuel through the device.

Do you want me to swing by and take a look?

Added 2 days later:

I thought about it some more and I have a similar problem with getting my propane to light.
It blows itself out while trying to light it.
I generally turn down the pressure at the gauge until I can get it running.

This post was edited by Torch Mullins (2011-07-26 19:00, ago)
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#6   2011-07-29 20:49          
Hey, there's life out there! I don't have a thing useful to say on the topic, but its great to hear from all of you and see some posts on the site.

Linda

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#7   2011-07-30 11:19          
Tony Thanks, It has been too hot for me in the shop for a while, but I am going to try to play with the thing in the early mornings next week. YES, the pilot light burns well, so I am getting fuel thru, but I may have the pressure too high. My problem is that if it will not light immediately when set at recommended pressures and I turn them back for lighting, then when I turn them back it probably will not light for operation with the foot pedal. I think it may have to do with not having oxygen MIXED into the fuel. This is no problem with acetylene, but may be with propane. I have been trying to light it with pure propane. Everything in the system looks to be correct, and the fact that the pilot light works tells me that propane is getting to the torch. Like they said in "The King and I" -- "IS A PUZZLEMENT".

Had a virus get thru my Macafee Virus Protection. Am going to lose my computer for a while early next week while it gets fixed. Meantime I am going to try to save as much off it as I can. I understand that I MUST save pictures ONE AT A TIME which will be fun. I think I may simply abandon quite a few. This will certainly teach me to back up certain items in the future. Wisdom comes with experience and MORE FORCEFULLY with unpleasant experience.
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