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Dietrich Hoecht

Posts: 51

Location: United States Clayton, GA
Occupation: piddles in metal, roams the woods
Age: 78
#1   2014-12-18 08:24          

I have a book from Sugimori on Japanese Patinas. It includes two iron black ones, which, according to the photos, make for a nice sooty black appearance. I did not want to try the first one, since it includes arsenic. However, an application with the second one, 'Sabi-tsuke 2' did not produce anything worthwhile. It includes sulfur, copper sulfate, table salt and lots of vinegar and it is to be applied in several coats.

Does anyone have tried it with good results? Any suggestions? The recipe does not propose heating of the substrate. May be that could make a difference?


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Location: United States Alpharetta
Occupation: Illustrator
Age: 35
#2   2014-12-18 15:38          
I'm unfamiliar with those techniques, but I typically just rub bees wax on the metal while it is still really hot(sometimes it catches fire). That tends to give me a nice 'sooty' black finish. I've had a bottle opener with that finish for a couple years now and it still looks the same. I believe you can do the same thing with oil. I'm not sure how it compares to they patinas you are referencing, but maybe worth a try if you haven't.
"Get 'em while they're hot!"


Posts: 158

Location: United States
Age: 69
#3   2014-12-21 11:33          
Hi Dietrich,

I remembered your post when I checked out the sale email I got from Centaur. They were having a sale on patinas, and one was called Black Magic Traditional Patina. Regular price was $15 for a spray bottle,
$13.95 on sale. I haven't used the black patina, but I have used other patinas made by the manufacturer, Sculpt Nouveau and they worked well. I ordered my patinas directly from the manufacturer or got them from a supplier in Chattanooga, Townsend Atelier.


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Location: United States Flowery Branch, GA
Occupation: Sales
#4   2015-11-09 16:39          
Ferric Chloride will give a nice black oxide on the surface.


Posts: 134

Location: United States Sharpsburg, GA
Occupation: Retired Programer
Age: 70
#5   2015-11-18 03:36          
I have used the bee's wax process that Thomas suggested with one addition. I heat the item over a smoky sooty fire to add a bit more soot to the surface before adding the wax.
Cal Kohler
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